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I’m conflicted on this because if energon is alien gasoline they’d probably need an engine to actually use it but also energon circulates but if it circulates I don’t know how engines would work

i imagine them having a mechanical like circulatory system where energon moves around like blood and the fuel pump is the heart equivalent but yeah i am not sure if this is actually how cars work

Well, the difference between blood and gasoline is that blood is a carrier for fuel (oxygen and nutrients) but doesn’t get consumed itself, while gasoline is a fuel.

Cars are probably a terrible example to model Transformer innards on. Complicated as they can seem, honestly they’re really just rod/wheel/belt systems–pretty primitive.  Combustion engines probably have almost no resemblance to how a species of evolved, sentient mechanical beings who can rebuild themselves would probably work inside.

BUT Transformers definitely would need some kind of fluid circulation–if nothing else, so that they can get their fuel from the point of intake to where it gets used in their system.  They might have one or more engines.  A car has one.  The human body has millions of cells, each of which is a tiny chemical furnace.  If I were building a mechanical alien lifeform, I’d give them a bunch of furnaces.  It’s more redundant, so if one breaks, it’ll take out some functions but not all of them.  Thus, they might need a fairly complex circulatory system with multiple destinations for the energon.

I imagine they probably have more than one circulatory system, in fact.  One for fuel, and at least one other for coolant, lubrication, flushing waste products, etc.  (Whatever the waste product of energon is.)

But the thing is, we don’t flipping know what energon actually IS.  They can apparently refine it from other fuel sources.  Refining fuel is done to get all the non-fuel crap out of it and concentrate the amount of energy per unit of fuel (e.g. crude oil > gasoline). But in the end, all fuel–whether fossil fuels, uranium cores, or sugar–is burned in order to release energy, and it’s the energy you’re actually after.  

But I mean.  Energon as it’s depicted in the comics is actually impossible.  The energy stored in fossil fuels comes from molecules splitting apart.  The energy in solar energy is…well, it’s light/heat energy.  We convert it straight to electricity using solar panels. The energy in radioactive materials comes from atoms splitting or merging.  THESE ARE ALL DIFFERENT.  You can’t refine them all into the same kind of fuel, unless what you actually mean is that you’ve already converted them into energy and it’s the energy itself they’re consuming.

So maybe energon is already processed.  Maybe they basically do the first stage of ‘digestion’ before they even consume it. Maybe actually is a carrier fluid, containing dissolved pure energy–electricity or radiation of some form, maybe.  And instead of converting fuel to energy within their bodies, as humans or cars do, what they do is filter the pure energy out of the carrier fluid and use it.  The carrier fluid would then either by a waste by-product, or maybe it’s something that’s otherwise useful to them–coolant or lubrication, maybe.  So it would get shunted through some internal filtration into a different circulatory system.

More thinking than anyone should ever do on fictional alien robots.

They need some kind of mechanism to move the parts when they transform, though, yes? Could that be an engine type thing?

Although revving that during a good frag might be dangerous, like “ooh yeah, ohhh yes, OH NO I’M SORRY I DIDN’T MEAN TO TRANSFORM THAT PART oh shit I’ll call Ratchet, I’m sure he can reattach your spike”

Don’t forget the transformation cog!  Having that does indicate that the entire transformation cycle is generated from a single central point.  And a cog is a gear.  It doesn’t turn by itself.  So yes, it does have to be connected to something that turns it.

But I wonder what that cog attaches to. Supposedly it’s connected to the spark and CPU, which makes sense.  I mean, the spark is the actual Transformer.  Really, everything else they are is just a giant exosuit for a little glowing soul-ball of an alien lifeform.  And then the CPU translates the impulses of the spark to neural signals that control the body and do all the usual brain-stuff.  So the CPU would signal the transformation cog when transformation is desired.  Transformation wouldn’t start with the revving of an engine.  It’d start with a decision, or a reflex, like you moving your arm.

And what I wonder is, is the transformation cog attached to an energon-powered engine at all?  Or does its mechanism directly use the energy of the spark to start turning?  Because from what Ratchet, First Aid, et al. have said about it, it’s part of that whole Rossum’s Trinity deal–somehow more intrinsically a part of them than all the other bits of their exo-bodies.

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