“The gifset itself I don’t find offensive, it’s the extra text. I find it classist to use the way some working class people speak as a punchline.”
a good display of the two types of people in Britain
Better watch yourself, blood – dat man an’ his big bruv will eff yo shit up big yo.
Can anyone tell me where this exchange came from? (professorfangirl)It’s from the Never Mind The Buzzcocks that Martin hosted (ep 23×08). There’s only clips of it on YouTube; maybe it’s on Hulu er summat?
(Note: oddly, that exchange was probably the least confrontational of the whole show; Dappy was pissing people off so badly that Phil Jupitus got up and walked out for a bit. Freeman was actually pretty cool and diplomatic with him though.)
Anonymous asked you:Anonymous asked you:“Not the same anon, but I think the implication is that the “two types of people” refer to social class. It’s basically a gifset in which MF is looking askance at someone whose main notable characteristic is that he’s a chav.”
Ah. I think I get it. In an American context, this wouldn’t read that way much, if at all; the racial politics might stick up more, because what you read as working-class I’d read as hip-hop, originating in African-American slang. But it wouldn’t be a strong effect even so. I’ll defer to your read on this, and apologize. I’ll take the original reblog down, but leave this one up because I think you both make good points that others should hear.
See, this whole classism argument startled and bewildered me when it came up. Not the ‘classism is a social issue in the UK’ thing; I get that. It’s the unawareness of the majority of Americans I’ve observed regarding classism in the United States. This TOTALLY reads just like the kind of classism I see here on a regular basis.
On a separate note, though: is ‘geezer’ actually an insult here? It is in the US—we use it to mean ‘old man’—but in the UK, I think the connotation is closer to ‘dude,’ or even verging into a connotation of ‘you’re hot shit.’